WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A U.S. judge in Washington said he plans to decide later on Sunday whether to block a Trump administration order banning Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc’s Google from offering Chinese-owned short video-sharing app TikTok for download in U.S. app stores.
Trump said he was stunned to learn that the Treasury could not receive any payment in exchange for the US signing off on the deal.
“Amazingly, I find that you’re not allowed to do that,” Trump said. “If they’re willing to make big payments to the government they’re not allowed because … there’s no legal path to doing that. … How foolish can we (the United States) be?”
Trump added the deal will include a $5 billion fund for US education, though he did not say which companies would be making the payment. Trump had previously expressed a desire for the companies to make a payment to the US Treasury, but was surprised when he was told such an arrangement would be illegal.
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Trump also said the deal will result in 25,000 jobs, and that TikTok would be headquartered in Texas. ?itok=5okSnwuB&v=1600324700
London (CNN Business)With roughly 100 million users in the United States, it’s no surprise that TikTok videos have taken over the internet.
But as the relationship between Washington and Beijing frays, the fate of the video app, which is owned by China’s ByteDance, looks uncertain. In recent weeks, US government officials have claimed that TikTok poses a serious threat to national security, and President Donald Trump has threatened to ban it unless an American company takes control of its domestic operations.
That set off a bidding contest that’s roped in some of America’s top corporations, including Microsoft (MSFT), Oracle (ORCL) and Walmart (WMT). While Microsoft is no longer a contender — the company on Sept. 13 announced its bid was rejected by ByteDance — Oracle appears to have emerged victorious and Walmart may still have a small part to play. While Oracle has agreed to become TikTok’s business partner in the United States, it’s not clear that the proposed deal will appease government officials on either side, who have indicated they intend to carefully review any new arrangement.
What is clear is that the fight over TikTok is bigger than who owns an app popular with Generation Z. It’s also about the future of US-China relations, and the murky new rules businesses are forced to navigate as tensions between the world’s two biggest economies ramp up.
Hong Kong/Atlanta (CNN Business)Beijing appears to have just thrown a wrench into the possibility that TikTok could be sold to an American buyer to avoid a ban on its business in the United States.
Chinese officials on Friday revised rules that govern the sale of certain kinds of technology to foreign buyers. The updated list includes data processing, speech and text recognition, according to government notices.
Planned TikTok deal entails China’s approval under revised catalogue: expert
BEIJING, Aug. 30 (Xinhua) — ByteDance, the parent company of TikTok, will need to comply with approval procedures under China’s latest revision to the catalogue of technologies that are subject to export bans or restrictions, regarding the planned selling of the video-sharing app’s U.S. operations, an expert observed.
TikTok ban once again blocked by judge, this time thanks to three influencers
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The restrictions set for November 12th are now on hold
https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/30/21542641/tiktok-ban-commerce-department-blocked-november-12-influencers
US Commerce Department reacts to TikTok’s US Court victory
https://twitter.com/nathanking/status/1310393799529689088
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A U.S. judge in Washington said he plans to decide later on Sunday whether to block a Trump administration order banning Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc’s Google from offering Chinese-owned short video-sharing app TikTok for download in U.S. app stores.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tiktok-ban-idUSKBN26I0PT?taid=5f70e25e25fc1e0001338a64&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
Trump said he was stunned to learn that the Treasury could not receive any payment in exchange for the US signing off on the deal.
“Amazingly, I find that you’re not allowed to do that,” Trump said. “If they’re willing to make big payments to the government they’re not allowed because … there’s no legal path to doing that. … How foolish can we (the United States) be?”
路透社引述美国政府官员称,美国投资者将占TikTok Global的53%股权,中方投资者则占36%。TikTok表示,根据提案,甲骨文和沃尔玛将参加TikTok Global的上市前募股,可以占有上市前最高20%的股份,剩余的80%则将有字节跳动持有。
另据彭博社周日引述消息人士报道,字节跳动正为TikTok争取600亿美元的估值。若甲骨文及沃尔玛同意此估值,依照甲骨文持股12.5%以及沃尔玛持股7.5%的配比,这两家公司总共将支付120亿美金收购TikTok Global股份。
字节跳动打脸特朗普:“第一次听说50亿教育基金”
https://www.dw.com/zh/%E5%B0%81%E6%9D%80%E5%89%8D%E5%A4%95-%E7%89%B9%E6%9C%97%E6%99%AE%E6%89%B9%E5%87%86tiktok%E4%B8%8E%E7%94%B2%E9%AA%A8%E6%96%87%E6%B2%83%E5%B0%94%E7%8E%9B%E5%90%88%E4%BD%9C%E5%8D%8F%E8%AE%AE/a-54993561?maca=zh-Twitter-sharing
2020.09.19
Trump over the deal
https://twitter.com/meimei1935/status/1307484901390913539
Guess: Oracle may take 50.01% ownership
Only India bans TikTok now
Trump added the deal will include a $5 billion fund for US education, though he did not say which companies would be making the payment. Trump had previously expressed a desire for the companies to make a payment to the US Treasury, but was surprised when he was told such an arrangement would be illegal.
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Trump also said the deal will result in 25,000 jobs, and that TikTok would be headquartered in Texas.
?itok=5okSnwuB&v=1600324700
2020.09.19
TikTok beats down Trump
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/19/tech/donald-trump-tiktok-deal-approval/index.html
London (CNN Business)With roughly 100 million users in the United States, it’s no surprise that TikTok videos have taken over the internet.
But as the relationship between Washington and Beijing frays, the fate of the video app, which is owned by China’s ByteDance, looks uncertain. In recent weeks, US government officials have claimed that TikTok poses a serious threat to national security, and President Donald Trump has threatened to ban it unless an American company takes control of its domestic operations.
That set off a bidding contest that’s roped in some of America’s top corporations, including Microsoft (MSFT), Oracle (ORCL) and Walmart (WMT). While Microsoft is no longer a contender — the company on Sept. 13 announced its bid was rejected by ByteDance — Oracle appears to have emerged victorious and Walmart may still have a small part to play. While Oracle has agreed to become TikTok’s business partner in the United States, it’s not clear that the proposed deal will appease government officials on either side, who have indicated they intend to carefully review any new arrangement.
What is clear is that the fight over TikTok is bigger than who owns an app popular with Generation Z. It’s also about the future of US-China relations, and the murky new rules businesses are forced to navigate as tensions between the world’s two biggest economies ramp up.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/17/business/tiktok-ban-oracle-sale-explained/index.html
央视:TikTok命运峰回路转,释放了什么信号?
连日来,TikTok的命运牵动人心,在美国政府步步紧逼之下,TikTok是被迫出售还是被强行关停?日前,甲骨文公司表示已与TikTok母公司字节跳动达成协议,成为其“可信技术提供商”,据报道,该方案若获批准,甲骨文公司将为TikTok提供云服务,此举不涉及TikTok的出售,也不涉及TikTok的核心技术转让。
峰回路转!这一新进展让人眼前一亮,对TikTok来说,称得上绝地逢生——既不需卖掉,也不需关门;对美国用户来说,更是好消息,上亿用户可以继续在“平台上建立联系和娱乐”,数十万小企业和创作者仍可以“依靠TikTok谋生并拓展有意义的事业”。
不难判断,这是各方角力的结果。无论TikTok及时地拿起法律武器,还是其美国用户连番抗争,以及美国股东持续博弈,都发挥了重要作用。在这个过程中,有关部门的鲜明立场也值得一提。8月28日,商务部、科技部调整发布《中国禁止出口限制出口技术目录》,这让TikTok的母公司坚定了拒绝美国企业收购请求的决心。此外,美国政府的“让步”也与大选有关。
https://news.sina.com.cn/c/2020-09-17/doc-iivhvpwy7302580.shtml
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https://news.sina.com.cn/w/2020-08-31/doc-iivhvpwy4009130.shtml
Hong Kong/Atlanta (CNN Business)Beijing appears to have just thrown a wrench into the possibility that TikTok could be sold to an American buyer to avoid a ban on its business in the United States.
Chinese officials on Friday revised rules that govern the sale of certain kinds of technology to foreign buyers. The updated list includes data processing, speech and text recognition, according to government notices.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/31/tech/tiktok-bytedance-china-us-hnk-intl/index.html
8月30日晚,字节跳动在其官方头条号上回应,公司关注到商务部和科技部于8月28日联合公布《关于调整发布的公告》,公司将严格遵守《中华人民共和国技术进出口管理条例》和《中国禁止出口限制出口技术目录》,处理关于技术出口的相关业务。
法新社表示,上述表态意味着字节跳动必须获得中国政府的批准才能将其视频共享应用出售给一家美国公司。抖音自称,目前有超过6亿的活跃用户。2020年8月,总下载量已经突破20亿次。正当Tik Tok风靡全美,上线不到三年便征服一亿用户之时,美国政府以信息安全为由,以政治方式强行干预这家来自中国的APP在美运营。
TikTok 收购案恐要生变。
微软一直是收购 抖音TikTok 谈判的领头羊 ,随后,Twitter、Netflix 和 Oracle 纷纷加入与 TikTok “私聊”谈判行列。最近,“半路杀出”沃尔玛,据说看重了 TikTok 短视频带货能力。种种混乱之中,TikTok 首席执行官凯文 · 梅耶 (Kevin Mayer)在任职不到六个月后,于 8 月 27 日宣布辞职 。
8 月 28 日,中国突然限制人工智能等敏感技术出口。商务部会同科技部调整发布了《中国禁止出口限制出口技术目录》(商务部科技部公告 2020 年第 38 号),将 AI 等敏感技术列为限制出口对象。
此时距离上一次目录修订 2008 年,已经过去12年。基于 2008 年版目录,此次调整共涉及 53 项技术条目:删除 9 项禁止类或者限制类条目;新增 23 项限制类条目(包括人工智能技术);对 21 项条目的控制要点和技术参数进行了修改。
https://news.creaders.net/china/2020/08/30/2261926.html
Planned TikTok deal entails China’s approval under revised catalogue: expert
BEIJING, Aug. 30 (Xinhua) — ByteDance, the parent company of TikTok, will need to comply with approval procedures under China’s latest revision to the catalogue of technologies that are subject to export bans or restrictions, regarding the planned selling of the video-sharing app’s U.S. operations, an expert observed.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-08/30/c_139329633.htm
“左手起诉,右手谈价”,近段时间,在特朗普政府的种种压力之下,TikTok的命运可以说牵动着世界目光。虽然字节跳动刚刚细数了特朗普政府的“七宗罪”,但也很明确胜算微乎其微。
相比之下,出售TikTok是目前情况下损失最小的选择,根据CNBC8月27日晚间消息,TikTok即将达成出售其美国业务的协议,并可能会在未来48小时内与微软(228.91, 2.33, 1.03%)达成出售交易。
此外,知情人士称,TikTok可能会出售其在美国、加拿大、澳大利亚和新西兰的业务,估值在200亿至300亿美元之间,但价格尚未决定。
随着TikTok事件的进展,TikTok在全球范围内的业务情况也备受关注。根据此前已披露公开信息及字节跳动披露,TikTok过去一年在全球范围内获得了巨大的成功,目前,TikTok已覆盖超过200个国家,全球下载量超过20亿次。
面对强势的特朗普政府,目前出售业务可能是损失最小的选择了。CNBC27日晚间透露的估值——200亿至300亿美元之间,刚好在此前市场传闻200亿至500亿美金范围的下边缘范围内。
https://finance.sina.com.cn/chanjing/gsnews/2020-08-28/doc-iivhuipp1110603.shtml
同时,美国财政部长姆努钦也与格雷厄姆就此事通了电话,告诉他说美国现在有1亿人都在用TikTok,而且绝大多数都是年轻人,上面播放的大多都是“小猫跳舞”的视频,可特朗普现在却打算直接封杀这个平台。
于是,格雷厄姆决定给特朗普打电话,劝他不要封杀TikTok。他还说如果是他来做决定,他肯定是不会封杀这么一个展现小动物跳舞的视频平台的。
https://news.sina.com.cn/w/2020-08-28/doc-iivhvpwy3644738.shtml
禁TikTok?这个民调结果,特朗普没想到吧
“禁用TikTok可能会给特朗普(连任)竞选带来灾难性的后果!”在美国国务卿蓬佩奥声称正考虑禁止包括TikTok在内的中国应用软件后,美国《福布斯》杂志网站刊文警告:民调显示,若特朗普政府禁止TikTok,可能会对特朗普的竞选连任造成冲击。
据《福布斯》杂志9日报道,当天公布的一项民意调查显示,对于可能会出现的这一禁令,33%的美国成年人持反对态度,高于持赞成态度的29%,这可能会在11月给特朗普带来“事与愿违”的结果。不仅如此,对于即将到来的大选,关键投票群体中的多数也反对有关禁令。
https://news.sina.com.cn/c/2020-07-11/doc-iirczymm1744134.shtml
《福布斯》还提到,最强烈的反对声来自美国18至29岁的成年人,在这一年龄阶段,反对美国禁用TikTok的比例为52%,比支持禁用TikTok的比例19%高出33个百分点;而在35岁至44岁之间,反对这一禁令的人比支持的人要高出13%。
“年轻选民将是决定2020年大选结果的关键。”报道说,美国塔夫茨大学研究显示,自特朗普当选以来,年轻选民的投票率大幅上升,年轻人的选票还为民主党在2018年中期选举中获胜发挥过重要作用。
《福布斯》称,美国目前有3720万TikTok用户,到2020年底,预计这一数字将上升到4540万。